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From: Zvi Lampel
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:13:55 -0400
Subject:
Re: [Avodah] Use of the word peshat in Moreh Nevuchim


On Sat, Jul 16, 2022, 9:36 PM Micha Berger <mi...@aishdas.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 04:46:53PM -0400, Zvi Lampel wrote:
> >>> 2. The Rambam never uses the term peshat regarding pesukim in the
> >>> Moreh Nevuchim!
>
> RMB:
> >> Most would consider idiom as as part of peshat.
>
> > Agreed
>
> >> So, the Rambam's discussion of literal vs idiomatic wouldn't require
> use of
> >> the word "peshat".
>
> > Why wouldn't he refer to the idiomatic meaning as ''peshat'' ?
>
> He would!
>
> But he would also refer to non-idiomatic phrases as peshat. So, there is
> no reason in the Moreh to use the word. When all you talk about in
> parshanut
> is the differences between two classes of peshat, it is unsurprising that
> the need to say the word "peshat" doesn't come up....
>

ZL: I don't get it. The Moreh Nevuchim repeatedly makes the point that
certain words and/or pesukim should not be taken literally. I would expect
the Rambam to say, ''the literal meaning is not the peshat!" Isn't that the
way you and I would put it? He instead uses other constructions, such as,
''the meaning is,'' ''the idea is,'' etc. It's as if for some reason he
wants to avoid using the term ''peshat.''
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Message: 2
From: Prof. L. Levine
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 13:29:48 +0000
Subject:
[Avodah] Cholav Yisroel in a Non-Jewish Owned Store


From today's OU Kosher Halacha Yomis


Q. The local convenience store where I buy my coffee started putting out
chalav Yisroel milk. The store does not have hashgacha, but the non-Jewish
owner would like to accommodate his chalav Yisroel clients. Is there any
issue with using this milk?

A. Shulchan Aruch (YD 118:1) writes that chalav Yisroel milk that was left
in the possession of a nochri must be sealed. Otherwise, there is a
possibility that it was tampered with and adulterated with chalav akum. We
can pose the following question. We are only concerned that a nochri would
tamper with a kosher food when doing so would be beneficial to him. (This
is known as ?neheneh b?chalipin?, benefiting from switching). In the case
of the cholov Yisrael, what would be the benefit? The nochri must return a
whole bottle of milk to his Jewish friend in any event. What would the
nochri gain by switching chalav akum for chalav Yisroel? The answer is that
the chalav Yisroel milk may be fresher. In the scenario of our original
question, the nochri owns all the milk. What would he gain by switching the
two bottles? The answer is that as the chalav Yisroel milk is used, he
might replenish the bottle with regular milk which is cheaper. Also, chalav
akum may be more easily available than c
 halav Yisroel. Therefore, one who is strict to only drink chalav Yisroel may not use the open containers of milk that are provided by the store.

YL
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