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Volume 39: Number 42

Tue, 04 May 2021

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Message: 1
From: Akiva Miller
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 06:36:00 -0400
Re: [Avodah] Gelatin

R' Jay F. ("Yaakov") Shachter wrote:

> And yet, it is davka in Eretz Yisroel where you will find
> acceptance of R' Chaim Ozer's psaq, and a rejection of the
> Chazon Ish's psaq, whereas, outside of Eretz Yisroel, the
> Chazon Ish's psaq is generally followed.
> (Of course, this is more due to R' Ovadya Yosef, than to R'
> Chaim Ozer.)

I suspect that this is not so much a function of the tendency of poskim in
a given area to hold similarly. Rather, I think it is a practical result
that in Eretz Yisroel, where there is an effort to provide basic-level
kashrus for as many people as possible, leniencies such as gelatin were
allowed by the basic-level hashgachos. (Which, by the way, far
pre-dates Rav Ovadia.)

In contrast, in America (my knowledge of other areas is sorely lacking)
most hashgachos pride themselves on aiming for the people who care more
about kashrus and halacha, so they avoid such leniencies and aim for the
chumros. But even in America there have always been some hashgachos who
were willing to rely on the leniencies for gelatin.

People of a certain age will have no problem remembering when KoJel was
made of real gelatin, and the box said that it was "packed under the
supervision of Rabbi" Ploni, but omitted the name of whoever it was that
supervised the raw gelatin itself. And even today, such hechsherim still
exist. For example, search Amazon for "NOW Supplements, CoQ10 400 mg,
Pharmaceutical Grade, All-Trans Form produced by Fermentation, 60
Softgels", and you'll find a Triangle-K with the words "Contains Gelatin".

Akiva Miller
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Message: 2
From: Arie Folger
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 10:44:02 +0200
Re: [Avodah] Where on the Mount of Olives would the Para

RMB wrote:
> Yes, the broken keilim are because you couldn't use them after using
> them to eat qodshim. My point was that the din of having to do
> something from where you can see the miqdash was often the
> mountainside. Suggesting this was true in general, suggesting parah
> adumah may not have been any different.

I believe that the reason is different: The mountains around Shilo formed
the equivalent of within the chomat Yerushayaim for the purposes of eating
qodashim qalim.
Mit freundlichen Gr??en,
Yours sincerely,

Arie Folger,
Visit my blog at http://rabbifolger.net/
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Message: 3
From: Prof. L. Levine
Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 20:51:06 +0000
[Avodah] Bonfires

Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel has spent time researching the origin and nature of
bonfires and has written an article on this topic.  He has kindly given me
permission to post his article at


I think you will find this article an interesting read.

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Message: 4
From: Micha Berger
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 13:16:08 -0400
Re: [Avodah] Bonfires

On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 08:51:06PM +0000, Prof. L. Levine via Avodah wrote:
> https://web.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/bonfires_mandel.pdf

> I think you will find this article an interesting read.

Maybe, if we didn't go around this circle EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

Derekh Emori is only assur if it serves no other purpose. CS's rejection
of /any/ innovation aside, we permit the Shabbos morning sermon. (And no,
I don't really care whether or not you personally find them meaningful
or tiresome.)

If people find sitting around a bonfire singing together to be inspiring
in their service of the Borei, let them.

Why do you have this need to repeatedly trash paths that are meaningful
to other people? Let them do their thing, and if it doesn't work for you,
go do yours.

Tir'u baTov!

Micha Berger                 Today is the 36th day, which is
http://www.aishdas.org/asp   5 weeks and 1 day in/toward the omer.
Author: Widen Your Tent      Chesed sheb'Yesod: What is the kindness in
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