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Volume 38: Number 11

Mon, 10 Feb 2020

• 1. Mistaken Minhagim - Talking During Tefillah, That Cannot be Stopped (Rabbi Meir G. Rabi)
• 2. Mistaken minchagim.... (Martin Brody)

R Zev Message-ID: <f4ad575c-5b94-e965-db17-da9957eab...@sero.name>

suggested that RaMBaM, at least within his area of influence, succeeded in
cancelling the Chazoras HaShaTz, and we assume also thereby reduced the
talking during Tefillah.

However, during the Radvaz's times, Ch HaShaTz was reintroduced
which only reinforces the notion that Mistaken Minhagim, even if they can
be temporarily abated, cannot be stopped

Best,

Meir G. Rabi

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Don't know if it's the earliest, it's certainly very old and Chazal,
to Rambam rejected it. But most of y'all will be doing it next
Shabbat. That is, standing for the 10 Commandments.
Cheers,
Martin Brody

"Does anyone know the earliest example of minhagim which are incorrect but
the Rabbis were unable to stop them?
Perhaps the best example of such a Minhag is Talking During Davenning.
Should this minhag continue since "obviously" earlier Rabbis approved them
and the communities were all holy?
But to be serious, I believe RaMBaM did his best to cancel the repetition
of the ShE by the Chazan - but he should have known better - one NEVER wins
an argument with a Chazze
Meir G. Rabi


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