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Volume 05 : Number 072

Monday, June 26 2000

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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:27 +0200
Re: Shavuos Minhag

From: "Carl and Adina Sherer" <sherer@actcom.co.il>
= Cheese cake, I can understand (especially if you're talking about
= the kind of cheesecake that is never baked in an oven), but why not
= blintzes? Because they're generally fried? (BTW - I did not have
= blintzes at the meal, and the cheesecake got demolished at
= Kiddush when we came back from the Kotel in the morning - long
= before lunch :-)

Just to be m'farsem Oisey Mitzvah. While walking back from the Kotel
I was invited to make kiddush at an outdoor location. Someone put up
tables with wine, cake and drinks in a yard on Shmuel HaNavi St. It's
not the first year he's done it. I wished him that next year he
should be zocheh to do it again _in_ the Beis haMikdash!

Moshe Schorr
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:06:50 -0400
From: perzvi@juno.com

From: Gershon Dubin <gershon.dubin@juno.com>
>= I see what you say about uniting with the RBShO as a hilula;  I
>= question the generality of progression from one status to another.

Moshe Schorr:
> I've heard this definition for the word "Histalkus".

Histalkus means more in the sense of concealment than progression

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:56:25 -0500
From: Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org>
Foie Gras

We were discussing on scj, the permissability of eating foie gras (fatted
goose). The question is roughly parallel to white veal, in that the animal
is treated in ways no one would consider humane.

I tried to isolate the inyanim:

1- Is the goose an omeid lamus, and therefore a neveilah?

2- Is it tza'ar ba'alei chayim?
2a- If the answer is yes, then is creating and contributing to a kosher foie
    gras market a violation of lifnei iver?
2b- Should one assur it anyway, even if not lifnei iver and not technically
    tza'ar ba'alei chayim on the grounds that it's neveilus birshus haTorah
    to make a delicacy out of tortured geese.

My poseik wanted to assur on the lattermost grounds, and therefore didn't get
into the more black-and-white issues. When I reported this back to scj, it
ended up raising an interesting question.

How does one integrate "dayach mah sheasrah Torah" with "kadeish es atzmecha
bimah shemutar lach"?


Micha Berger (973) 916-0287          MMG"H for 23-Jun-00: Shishi, Beha'aloscha
micha@aishdas.org                                         A"H 
http://www.aishdas.org                                    Yuma 26a
For a mitzvah is a lamp, and the Torah its light.         Haftorah

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