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Wed, 18 Mar 2026

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From: Joel Rich
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 00:22:53 +0200
Subject:
[Avodah] aruch hashulchan


Me-I?d also love to know when the aruch hashulchan says??????? here and in
other places is he reflecting on his empirical observation in his and
surrounding communities or on his estimation of what other authorities have
said about it or something else?

A Rav I respect-Sounds like his empirical observation, but he says ???????
because it is not a common case, so he doesn?t have enough data

Me-which raises the question when can we say there is a minhag when
something is infrequent (tbd)


Bsorot tovot

Joel Rich
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Message: 2
From: Joel Rich
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 00:35:58 +0200
Subject:
[Avodah] Fish out of water?


The mlacha of kotzer on Shabbat is generally defined as taking a living
organism and detaching it from the ground which is its chiyut (source of
life). The Yerushalmi (shabbat 48b) and many rishonim use this definition
to classify taking a fish out of water as kotzer. Some extend the concept
to keeping a fish in water but not in its natural environment (e.g. in the
bathtub?)

It occurs to me that one could see this as a metaphor for the Jewish people
outside of Israel. We can certainly stay alive there but we are cut off
from our chiyut. I?ve also wondered of late whether the tora of Rav
Soloveitchik (see especially his discussion of yosef hatzadik vs the
brothers) is heavily related to surviving in the exile while that of Rav
Kook is more focused on being in artzeinu, our natural habitat. Food for
thought at least -had their geographic "accidents" of dwelling been
reversed,m how would their writings differed>
Bsorot tovot

Joel Rich
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Message: 3
From: Micha Berger
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:54:14 +0200
Subject:
Re: [Avodah] aruch hashulchan


On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 12:22:53AM +0200, Joel Rich via Avodah wrote:
> ... which raises the question when can we say there is a minhag when
> something is infrequent (tbd)

I recently encountered the AhS saying "no".

Those who are learning the supplementary material to Arukh haShulchan
recently learned YD 57:19. The topic is a large animal (beheimah gasa)
that is clawed by something larger than a wolf but smaller than a lion.
Many are lenient. The Rama in se'if 1 has a "veyeish machmirim".

The AhS objects to someone saying that we are nohagim to prohibit
a beseimah gasah that was clawed by a wolf.
    Ein shayakh lomar "minhag"
    al davar she'eino matzui kol kakh.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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