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Volume 41: Number 87

Tue, 12 Dec 2023

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Message: 1
From: Micha Berger
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 16:57:05 -0500
Re: [Avodah] tzedakah collector

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:55:16AM +0200, Joel Rich wrote to *Areivim*
(but I think this is the more appropriate venue):
> What is the best practice if you've started the amida and a tzedakah
> collector comes in front of you to collect?

I would say a few words of Shemoneh Esrei loud enough for him to hear,
and therefor to know to move on. I think that not responding at all,
as though kavvanah trumps answering him, is inappropriate. You know
he is staning there collecting; you have to work to restore kavvanah
either way.

And also, to come back, if he wishes to. (Or you may wish to go to
him. Either way.)

An enlightening and enjoyable Chanukah!

Go to top.

Message: 2
From: Brent Kaufman
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:08:04 -0600
Re: [Avodah] tzedakah collector

> What is the best practice if you?ve started the amida and a tzedakah
> collector comes in front of you to collect?

What are the options here? Launch into a fire and brimstone mussar shmooz?
Scrunch your face and lift your fist up and say, "Why you, I oughta..."?
Clear your throat so that he learns the error of his ways? If one must
not be distracted by a snake or a king, what is the hava amina that a
tzedaka collector is the exception?

It seems that the purpose of tefila is to connect with HKBH, so wouldn't
the response be to close your eyes, slow down your pulse (which I can
only assume, based on personal experience, is starting to race) and
transcend any annoyance with rachamim for socially awkward people.

Chaimbaruch Kaufman


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