Lists of Middos

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  1. Neil Harris says:

    Thanks for taking time to write this up.

  2. micha says:

    You’re welcome. I just hope I put in enough time. Nu, if I think of an elaboration or something else I should have said, blog entries are editable…

    -micha

  3. S. says:

    Very interesting.

    However, I don’t think the way Orthodox history portrays Mendelssohn makes this astounding. How did Orthodox history portray Mendelssohn then? In Lita, among non-Chassidim, not so badly in the 1840s. Actually, Lefin was far more radical than Mendelssohn.

    However, that is a sidetrack from this excellent post. It’s nice to see someone take the time to actually compare these side by side.

  4. sara says:

    i would like to ask for a comment on a person with adhd and how bad middot is the problem – anger , disorganization , bad communication – so an adhd person has a much harder time controlling middot and becoming a better person …

    • micha says:

      An ADHD person has a problem with a few middos, most notably seder (organization).

      However, my son Eli, who managed to take out a drumstick and start playing on the desk in the middle of a HS interview, has far better control of his temper than I do, is far less lazy, more readily volunteers to help others (e.g. take out the trash without being asked), etc… We all have our unique challenges. Among them, not letting ourselves use those challenges as an excuse to let oneself off easy.

      Another recurring theme in my blogging is the notion that we aren’t assessed by where we are, but by how we are traveling. The ideal person is one who is climbing upward. After all, Hashem knows what He gave us to work with, what challenges to overcome, and what life situations He set up for us to encounter. The ideal person isn’t the one with perfect middos, that is only partially under our control anyway; it is the one who is perfecting them to the best of their ability.

      Does that address your question?
      -micha

  5. Michael Kramer says:

    Is Rav Yisroel Salanter’s list of middos found elsewhere besides the Meqor Barukh?

  6. Anavah Yisrael says:

    Your comment about an ideal person isn’t the one with perfect meddos, it’s the one who is perfecting them to the best of their ability. It’s a refreshing statement for the simple fact that most people only see the ones that appaer to have perfect meddos not the ones who are honestly trying but I suppose in the long run it doesn’t really matter what onter people see just as long as you in your souls heart is honestly making rightous effort. Just wanted to thank you for that comment its an uplifting statment with alot of power behind it.

  7. bloguzma says:

    Franklin’s definition of moderation is identical to savlonus, so RYS used 12/13 of BF’s middos, not 11/12.

    • micha says:

      I fail to see it. Moderation is defined as not going to extremes, of which Franklyn includes extreme responses to those who wronged you. Patience is about how we relate to other people. There is overlap, but only in that one mentions not indulging in revenge, and the other mentions tolerating what others do so that you don’t have cause for revenge. But neither actually focuses on avoiding revenge as the core of the virtue/middah.

  8. Dovid says:

    Hi Rabbi Berger. I stumbled across this website and article while trying to figure something out. Maybe you can help me. I am aware that there are many middos we are trying to perfect. The orchot tzaddikim and maalos hamiddos both supply lists of them that somewhat different.

    1) But is there an underlying theme to all the middos? Do they all come back to emulating G-d?

    2) When we say the 13 middos of compassion of God, is that a different part of middos development because O”T and M”H don’t really seem to focus on them?

    3) Is Hilchos Dayos in the rambam and his Shvil Hazahav the template for all middos that are included in O”T and S”H? If you have time to answer this I’d appreciate it. Thanks, Dovid

  9. Leah says:

    We just lost our mother and at Hakomas Matzeiva mentioned all the middos which she A”H followed as a soldier. We are considering printing up lamenated cards of the same, such as there is for Asher Yatzer, to include the original Loshan Kodesh, Yiddish and English. Would it be okay to use your translation?

  10. Neil Harris says:

    A card is an awesome idea. How can I get one?

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