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Volume 23: Number 193
Sat, 15 Sep 2007
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Message: 1
From: "Gershon Dubin" <gershon.dubin@juno.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:28:03 GMT
Subject: [Avodah] Hataras nedarim with a shaliach
In my "foursome" this morning, I was the only one who did NOT say that I was a shaliach for my wife for hatara/mesiras moda'ah. I never heard of this and don't see how this works, aside from my assumption that said wives never appointed them shelichim for the purpose.
If they did, could they?
Gershon
gershon.dubin@juno.com
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From: "R Wolberg" <cantorwolberg@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:10:37 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] Last minute Rosh Hashana Vort
The Torah portion for the first day deals with the barrenness of Sarah and
the Haftorah deals with the barrenness of Chanah. Nevertheless, they
finally conceived and gave birth to great people. So it is with Rosh
Hashanah. Though we may have been barren with a lack of mitzvos or with an
abundance of aveiros, HaShem will also cause a miracle for a rebirth in our
lives, providing there is the proper kavana.
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Message: 3
From: "Marty Bluke" <marty.bluke@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:06:30 +0300
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Shehecheyanu for shmitta
R' Daniel Israel asked:
<Your last comment, is this b'ferush in RSZA, or your understanding?
If the latter, can you clarify the s'vara, and has anyone heard any
other opinions? Not saying you are wrong, just curious.
It is not b'feirush (see Halichos Shlomo Moadim Rosh Hashana - Purim
chapter 1 sif 16 devar halacha 22 footnote 65). He writes that the
beracha is because we are zoche to be mekayem many mitzvos related to
shemitta, we have the shabbas haaretz, kedushas peiros, etc. People in
chutz laaretz are not mekayem these mitzvos, don't eat peiros with
kedushas sheviis, etc. and therefore I thought that the beracha would
not apply to them
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Message: 4
From: Daniel Eidensohn <yadmoshe@012.net.il>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:51:48 -0400
Subject: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
involves someone with colitis.
If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
kesiva vechasima tova
Daniel Eidensohn
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Message: 5
From: David Riceman <driceman@att.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:08:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Selichos - Especially before Midnight
Marty Bluke wrote:
> It is hard to go against all the modern day poskim.
>
>
When I was young and innocent I was taught that saying selichos in the
evening was a "yekkishe minhag", but not "our" (eastern European
Bostonian) minhag. I wonder whether all of these poskim are complaining
about someone from elsewhere changing his custom, rather than flat out
prohibiting the custom of an ancient and honorable Jewish community.
Notably none of the poskim you cite are German.
David Riceman
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Message: 6
From: "Doron Beckerman" <beck072@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:14:49 +0300
Subject: [Avodah] lifnei iver/kanaus
RDI writes:
>> I'm not sure how to understand this. I would assume that this
refers to someone who made the cheshbon that echad m'eivarav would
work but killed anyway. If he made the cheshbon that killing was
necessary, will the beis din really second guess this? What if he
claims that he didn't have sufficient time to do the cheshbon, will
beis din accept this? <<
Beis Din won't kill him in any event. See Rambam Hilchos Rotzeach 1:13
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Message: 7
From: "Doron Beckerman" <beck072@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:25:03 +0300
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Kosel vs. Shul in Old City
My understanding of the Maala of davening at the Kosel vs. other places is
"Shechinah Lo Zazah Misham (as the Medrash Shir Hashirim says on the Passuk
of Hinei Omed Achar Kosleinu). If there is an intensified presence of the
Shechinah, that makes it a place where it is better to daven, perhaps in the
sense of not requiring Malachim to bring the Tefillos to Hashem, similar to
a Choleh (Yoreh Deah 335:5) where the Shechinah is L'Maala Meraishosav
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Message: 8
From: "Rich, Joel" <JRich@sibson.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:20:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Hataras nedarim
I've noticed this AM multiple supplicants concurrently being matir neder
to the same 3 dayanim. Seemed inconsistent but does anyone else know of
this being done and a source?
KVCT
Joel Rich
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Message: 9
From: Zev Sero <zev@sero.name>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:35:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Trivia Question - What Friday Nights have no
Richard Wolpoe wrote:
> There are several Friday nights that [at least virtually] never have a
> Shalom Zachor
Obviously Yom Kippur and the Seder night. I can't think of any others.
BTW, it seems from Rashi on Vayikra 26:4 (and Taanis 23a) that in his
time and place they didn't have sholom zochors.
--
Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's
zev@sero.name interpretation of the Constitution.
- Clarence Thomas
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Message: 10
From: "Michael Kopinsky" <mkopinsky@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:51:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
On 9/12/07, Daniel Eidensohn <yadmoshe@012.net.il> wrote:
>
> Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
> involves someone with colitis.
> If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
There's no mention of such a requirement in the poskim, is there? The only
problem you might have to worry about (in a bathroom) is tokei'a
l'toch habor! ;-)
Michael
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Message: 11
From: Zev Sero <zev@sero.name>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:05:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
Daniel Eidensohn wrote:
> Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
> involves someone with colitis.
I can't see why it should. You're not handling any tashmishei
kedusha. What other mitzvot require guf naki?
> If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
The only problem I can think of is hearing the bracha, because shomea
keoneh, and it's not a fit place to say a bracha, or even think the
words of the bracha. But if only the shofar blasts reach the bathroom
then I can't see why one would not be yotze. Of course it would be a
bizayon to deliberately choose to do a mitzvah in such a place rather
than a better one; but if there's no other option that doesn't apply.
--
Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's
zev@sero.name interpretation of the Constitution.
- Clarence Thomas
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Message: 12
From: Zev Sero <zev@sero.name>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:17:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
Daniel Eidensohn wrote:
> Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
> involves someone with colitis.
I can't see why it should. You're not handling any tashmishei
kedusha. What other mitzvot require guf naki?
> If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
The only problem I can think of is hearing the bracha, because shomea
keoneh, and it's not a fit place to say a bracha, or even think the
words of one. But if only the shofar blasts reach the bathroom then
I can't see why one would not be yotze. Of course it would be a
bizayon to deliberately choose to do a mitzvah in such a place rather
than a better one; but if there's no other option that doesn't apply.
--
Zev Sero Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's
zev@sero.name interpretation of the Constitution.
- Clarence Thomas
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Message: 13
From: "Doron Beckerman" <beck072@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:45:27 +0300
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Shofar and Guf Naki
Too late for this year, but see Biur Halachah at the beginning of Siman 588
who discusses this issue.
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Message: 14
From: Ari Zivotofsky <zivotoa@mail.biu.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:22:52 +0300 (IDT)
Subject: Re: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
see Halichos Shlomo, vol. 2, chapter 2:17 (page 33).
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Daniel Eidensohn wrote:
> Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
> involves someone with colitis.
> If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
>
> kesiva vechasima tova
>
> Daniel Eidensohn
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Message: 15
From: Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:33:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] shofar & guf naki
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 02:51:48PM -0400, Daniel Eidensohn wrote:
: Does the mitzva of hearing shofar require guf naki. This question
: involves someone with colitis.
: If it doesn't can one fulfill it in a bathroom?
I would think it is related to the question of the connection between
shofar and tefillas mussaf. If shemi'as qol shofar is a kind of tefillah
or part of the tefillah of the day, then I think it /would/ require one
have a guf naqi.
Gut Voch and a GCT!
-mi
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Message: 16
From: "Moshe Y. Gluck" <mgluck@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:07:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Hataras nedarim with a shaliach
R' GD:
> In my "foursome" this morning, I was the only one who did NOT say that
> I was a shaliach for my wife for hatara/mesiras moda'ah. I never heard
> of this and don't see how this works, aside from my assumption that
> said wives never appointed them shelichim for the purpose.
>
> If they did, could they?
I have heard different Pesakim about the validity of the Hattaras Nedarim -
ranging from "It's nothing" to "It's a Hattaras Nedarim." Perhaps the ones
who do it for their wives are from the first camp. (Only partially
tongue-in-cheek.)
KT and KVCT (or GT, as appropriate),
MYG
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Message: 17
From: "Doron Beckerman" <beck072@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:35:09 +0300
Subject: Re: [Avodah] Davening for one's enemy
RYK asks if the Sifrei Mussar talk about davening for one's enemy. Orchos
Tzaddikim in the beginning of Shaar HaSimchah does mention davening for
one's enemy, though not necessarily as an Eitzah for overcoming negative
feelings.
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